Supermodel-turned-entrepreneur Miranda Kerr sat down with Kristen Cavallari for a wide-ranging conversation covering her morning nervous-system rituals, how she’s raising four boys with meditation and screen-time boundaries, the at-home beauty tech she swears by, and two decades of building KORA Organics into a certified-organic empire.

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First Meeting, First Impressions

Though they’d never met in person, Kerr and Cavallari crossed paths years ago when both had pop-ups at The Grove—Kerr with KORA Organics and Cavallari with Uncommon James. Cavallari opened by telling Kerr that her team had always described her as “the nicest woman on the planet,” a reputation Kerr says comes from a simple principle she teaches her children: kindness is the most important thing you can do.

It all comes from your heart. So, it’s really nice to be recognized for that.
—Miranda Kerr

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Morning Routine: Light, Meditation, and Nervous-System Regulation

Kerr says her non-negotiable is a daily meditation practice she began at 17, now integrated with her faith and gratitude. She aims for at least 20 minutes each morning—often waking around 4:30–5:00 a.m.—and sometimes layers in Joe Dispenza-style heart-opening meditations after her Vedic practice.

Happiness is an inside job and it’s something you have to cultivate and water daily like you’re watering a flower.
—Miranda Kerr

After meditating, she opens the blinds to flood the room with morning light for circadian rhythm support, and tries to get the boys in the light too. When time allows, they go outside to put their feet in the grass—grounding as a family reset.

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Raising Kids with Meditation (and Managing Screens)

Kerr shared that her three older boys were taught Vedic meditation with individual mantras in a small home ceremony led by a friend. Each child’s mantra practice length matches their age—so her six-year-old ideally sits for six minutes with eyes closed. Her 15-year-old son enjoys it so much he introduced it to his girlfriend and her friends, who now meditate together.

There’s no such thing as a bad meditation… That is a way for your nervous system to destress.
—Miranda Kerr

On screens, only her teenager has a phone—and it’s taken away at night and returned around 7:00–7:30 a.m. She uses both parental controls and physical collection of devices, and recently her son has been voluntarily handing phones in by 9:30 p.m.

This is my first time being a parent to a teenager. I’m trying to figure this out with you… so that you become the best version of yourself and you’re not consumed by a device.
—Miranda Kerr

The family communicates heavily on Snapchat (her husband Evan Spiegel created the app), which Kerr says feels more joyful and expressive than texting.

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Beauty Tech at Home: Microcurrent, Red Light, and Mats

Kerr is “very much into health and tech,” and listed several at-home devices she uses consistently:

• Microcurrent: She loves microcurrent and has used devices like NuFACE and a V-roll.
• Red/infrared light for the body: She uses a WiTHiT (low-level laser + infrared) mat for full-body sessions.
• Cell regulation mat: A Norwegian brand (Cell Optimizing) mat she sits on for ATP production, with active, sleep, and “nature” settings that mimic grounding when going outside isn’t possible.
• Lima device: A bedside light therapy tool for skin that requires regular use to see results.

I’m very much into health and tech. That’s my thing. —Miranda Kerr

On in-office treatments, Kerr says lasers haven’t agreed with her skin—she once had a Fraxel that triggered pigmentation, which she then had to calm with targeted products (including her turmeric range). She’s tried Sofwave for collagen and lift over time, and dabbled with AquaGold “stamping” (hyaluronic acid ± a touch of Botox), but wasn’t convinced she saw a major difference.

On injectables and surgery, she’s open-minded: she’s seen friends look amazing after facelifts and resonates with the idea of aligning your outside with how you feel inside.

You want to be the best version of yourself… I get it—you just want to help gravity.
—Miranda Kerr

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20 Years of KORA Organics: Certified Organic, Not Just “Clean”

Kerr reflected on launching KORA Organics in 2006—well before “clean beauty” was a mainstream term—and emphasized that certified organic goes further than clean. She invested her own money, worked directly with chemists, and served as CEO for years before recently appointing a new CEO so she could step back from day-to-day operations while remaining founder and deeply involved.

This is my baby girl… I built it from the ground up.
—Miranda Kerr

Key pillars of the brand:

• Certified organic formulations: Kerr notes certified organic ingredients can have up to 60% more antioxidants and avoid potentially carcinogenic pesticides.
• Mind–body–spirit design: Products are filtered through crystals during manufacturing and carry positive words on the back (e.g., “revitalize,” “joy,” “bliss”) to make skincare a moment of receiving good energy, not just results.
• Pregnancy-safe: KORA is certified by a pregnancy-safety organization, which matters to Kerr as a mother.
• Family-friendly: Her teenager Flynn uses the Turmeric Foaming Cleanser and Turmeric Scrub daily; her husband uses the Noni Glow Face Oil mixed with the Turmeric Moisturizer; she uses the body oil and lotion on herself and the kids.

We should always be aware of what we’re putting on our skin, not just when we’re pregnant. We should value ourselves enough to care. —Miranda Kerr

On product strategy, Kerr says her biggest recent decision was to pause new launches and focus on “hero” products instead of chasing trends. She owns 95% of KORA and hasn’t sold because she hasn’t found a partner who shares her passion.

More is not always more… I’m following the beat of my own drum.
—Miranda Kerr

She also noted that KORA was an early adopter of refill pods—glass jars with inner refill containers—to reduce waste, a format she says others later copied.

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Victoria’s Secret: Glamour, Pressure, and a “Big Happy Family”

Kerr described the VS Fashion Show era as a whirlwind of glamour, music, and creative fantasy—but also high pressure to look and feel your best. She recalled the full production machine: big hair extensions, spray tans, incredible musical performers, and hair/makeup teams that made the whole process fun.

The whole creative process of creating this kind of fantasy world was fun.
—Miranda Kerr

Despite the public perception of competition, Kerr says there were no behind-the-scenes feuds among the Angels. Instead, she remembers a supportive, grateful group of women who knew how rare the opportunity was.

There wasn’t really any competition because everyone was kind of doing the best they could and really grateful for the fact that they were chosen as a Victoria’s Secret Angel.
—Miranda Kerr

She shared a vivid memory of flying into St. Barts for a shoot and feeling her “heart so full of gratitude,” even with sunrise call times and all-day shooting.

Flying into St. Barts… my whole heart was so full of gratitude. I was like, ‘Wow, I really get this opportunity to be here.’
—Miranda Kerr

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Pre-Show Training vs. Now: From Boxing to 10-Minute Workouts

Leading up to the runway, Kerr trained five to six days a week with trainer Justin Gelband, who pushed boxing and running—workouts she didn’t love but did for “mom definition.”

He’s like, ‘What are you angry about?’ I’m like, ‘I’m not an angry person.’

—Miranda Kerr

Today, her routine is far lighter: she does Megan Roup’s 10-minute “quickie” workouts every other day, prioritizing meditation over long gym sessions when life gets busy.

I’m doing that instead of working out, I guess you could say, with the busy life that I have right now. But that’s the choice that I make because that’s what feeds me.
—Miranda Kerr

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The Extreme Biohacking Diet: Noni Juice, No Eggs, No Seed Oils

Kerr’s daily intake is highly structured and focused on “food as medicine.” Her morning starts with a 30 ml shot of Tahitian noni juice (a superfruit she’s drunk for 30 years), marshmallow leaf tea for gut lining, coconut yogurt with local honey, a bite of banana, and then coffee. Her coffee is made with mold- and lead-free Fabula coffee, fresh full-fat coconut milk from Erewhon, and maple syrup.

I love food, but when I got sick, I had to learn even more that food is medicine.
—Miranda Kerr

She avoids dairy, wheat, eggs, and seed oils, cooking only with coconut or avocado oil (olive oil is for salads, not heat). Her protein comes from non-mass-produced meats like venison, bison, and turkey—and it’s this offbeat protein list that quickly went viral online, with “bison” becoming the most-shared clip from the interview.

I eat like… all like meats like venison, bison. All those nutrients, turkey. I eat all the meats that aren’t mass-produced.

She eats squash, carrots, and parsnips instead of typical carbs, and limits salmon due to mercury. Sushi is a hard no—she’s done parasite cleanses with her boys and won’t risk it again.

Never. Parasites. It’s not worth it. —Miranda Kerr

For sweets, she uses lead-tested carob to make hot chocolate with coconut milk and maple syrup, and hosts “tea parties” with her six-year-old using lemon balm tea.

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Family Life with Evan Spiegel (and Co-Parenting with Orlando Bloom)

Weekends revolve around outdoor play, pickleball (their eight-year-old’s new obsession), church on Sundays, and family brunches with Evan’s family, who live nearby. At home, they build Legos together, play Uno and Monopoly Deal, and have Nerf gun battles—though their sensitive two-year-old prefers not to watch the chaos.

We’re a big game family. —Miranda Kerr

As a couple, Kerr and Spiegel prioritize date nights, monthly overnight getaways, and simple movie nights at home. She describes them as homebodies who attend events only “once in a blue moon” if they’re truly passionate about the cause.

On co-parenting with Orlando Bloom, Kerr says their guiding principle from day one was putting Flynn’s needs first—above their own. That decision, she says, turned a potentially difficult split into a lasting friendship.

Get my needs out of the way, get his needs out of the way. What is in the best interest of Flynn? And that was really our guidepost for any decision. —Miranda Kerr

He’s like part of the family. He’s like a brother. —Miranda Kerr

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Hot or Not: Model Edition

Cavallari closed with a rapid-fire “Hot or Not” segment. Kerr’s takes:

• Fasting: Not
• Sauna: Hot
• Cold plunge: Not
• Detoxes: Not (“Your body has a natural detoxing capability if you give it the right food.”)
• Counting protein: Be aware, but don’t be meticulous
• Avoiding kale: She doesn’t eat kale (but does eat spinach)
• Gua sha: Hot (she uses a rose quartz gua sha shaped like a heart)
• Baby Botox / AquaGold: Sure
• EMF blockers: Hot (she uses SomniFix and EMF blockers on her phone and around the house)

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This recap is based on Miranda Kerr’s appearance on the Let’s Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari podcast. For the full episode, click on the YouTube link at the top or listen wherever you get your podcasts.